In the end, 83 people completed the survey, which from my experience of these matters is a fantastic result.
It appears with the great gift of hindsight that we should have offered the opportunity for people to say they wanted the land at Chanterlands left as it is.
Some of the people I have spoken to choose ‘No’ responses to the Chanterlands questions because they want the land left as it is and not used for housing or a public park.
The results are below.
Your comments are at the bottom of the page, and it must be said for a diverse group of people we have a lot to say!
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Why did they build a new housing estate right in the middle of our homes with a creche which will cause traffic chaos when it opens right beside a junction. Now the council want to make the place a free for all for anyone who feels like it.
Put your cycle lanes and walkways somewhere else. I want my home left as it is which is nice and secluded away from any kind of traffic of passing people who have no business being neare my home.
I am very upset that the council tried to get away with finalising the plan without us having any idea it was going on and our local councillors and tds have not stood up for us.shame on all of them.
Kingsgrove is a well established estate that the residents take great pride in. It’s a good mix of both young and old who feel safe and secure. Opening up the roads to through traffic would spoil that sense of security and wellbeing and just be a continuation of past mistakes by both developers and county council’s across the country and county.
We are very concerned that this will affect the safety and nature of our environment and home, it is quiet and safe, and this was why we chose to live here.
Someone should investigate in to the chanterland field because their was talk years ago that that field was left to the people of the town for the sports of the school children of the town and it was never supposed to be sold or someone take it over because it was always meant to be for children of the town
As an elderly resident I don’t want to see any changes in the estate. I fear that an increase in traffic and people could bring harm to me.
As a resident who has cared for the green area for years I’m strongly opposed to any changes in the estate. I do not want to see any further roads or traffic in the estate. The increase off traffic with the new estate is already a problem for me.
I am a Kingsgrove home owner for the past 19 years. My reasons for purchasing my home in Kingsgrove were it was a mature estate with no potential of further houses to be built in the estate but this has already happened with the building of Glebelands estate. I was guaranteed the green area in front of my home was a green amenity area for our estate. If I wanted a home in a large estate with many roads I would have purchased a house in a newer estate at the time. At the time of purchase Kingsgrove was a private estate and to think the council can do as they wish I believe to be unfair and very disregarding to mortgage paying residents. I will be getting a valuation on my home and should it decrease due to the councils plans I will hold them liable.
Our green areas are maintained by the residents in all areas with the extra traffic from the glebelands estate there are 8 roads coming out onto the main road in the estate and at peak times it can be quite dangerous the greens are used by the children to play on and if they are used for houses the children would have to play on the roads our estate has a vast volume of traffic as it is any extra would leave it a danger for children pedestrians and cyclists
We bought our house here in Graysland because we loved the fact that it was a nice small private estate. I am disappointed that the houses in Glebelands have an access route into Kingsgrove and Graysland and not through Coneyborough as was planned, but again the residence here in Graysland were not notified until afterwards.
A lot of young children live in the area and they play on the greens. Speeding traffic could be detrimental to the safety of these children.
With the completion of Glebelands I see that there is an increased volume of traffic in the estate. If there was building to go ahead in the estates of Kingsgrove and Grayslands I would fear that the traffic will become too much for the estate to handle and become too densely populated. I have no problem with housing being built in Chanterlands as long as there is no access to and from that estate into Kingsgrove and Grayland.
I do not want Kingsgrove or Graysland to become busier than it already has become with the addition of the houses in Glebelands. The reason I chose to purchase a house in this estate many years ago was because it was well established and a quiet area to raise a family. It is a beautiful, respectable estate and the addition of extra houses on our green areas where our children play would be an absolute shame.
Kingsgrove and graysland is a nice community and to disrupt the area would be shameful I think a partition for all residents to sign against this planning might help aswel as the survey some residents might not get access to internet to do the survey. We need to stick together and stop this from happening.
I want to know why are they using kingsgrove estate for a way out and not using other estate mentioned about as a way out.. I think there is enough traffic coming from kingsgrove with the new estate that has been just built here (glebelands) .
My vote goes to whoever stops this madness.
I strongly agree Kingsgrove and Graysland should be left the way it is. We moved here because it is a quiet and safe area to bring up our children. This would be a nightmare for all residence.The fact that the Council haven’t contact us about these plans is disgraceful…
Kingsgrove has always been a nice quiet area but since new entrances have been put in things have changed for the worse.
Hello all, as a Councillor I’ve sent in my submissions regarding the LAP. I’ve outlined that I’m not in favour of pathway connectivity through estates, and that open space and green area must be protected. I’ve also looked for an extension on the time line for submissions to the plan as we are engulfed in a global pandemic that has closed many public building that previously would have had all relevant information on display, and in order that a public webinar could be held . I’m meeting with officials today to discuss. Regards Brian
I have lived in Kingsgrove for the last 31 years I have brought up my children and now my grandchildren come in to visit us and I would be very concerned for their safety if any more traffic is allowed tin to our estate
We have paid money for the past twenty years for the up keep of these grounds, only safe place for our children and grandchildren to play, on, as the roads are to dangerous as it is with cars constantly coming in and out,, what would it be like if there was a trough road put in, far to dangerous for our kids and old folk
Keep the green space between Kingsgrove / Oak Lawns [currently divided by a fence] and allocate ‘Allotments’ for the people without rear gardens or a co-operative eco garden similar to. the one in Rathcoffey. Above all, KEEP IT GREEN! The area [between Graysland and R417] is way too narrow to put anything on and give any quality of line to inhabitants, and would seriously impact the resident of 1-7, Graysland if any higher than single storey; KEEP IT GREEN! The other ‘space’ opposite No: 90 Rory’s gaff – if you must, a road [only] might help traffic – but would seriously impact those along the ‘main drag’ of Kingsgrove, and trees must be used [environmental considerations] for the benefit of the climate. I heard talk (a long time ago] of a green path / cycle way from Coneyboro along the back of Kingsgrove following Mucky Lane to Aughaboura – that might be acceptable? If lit with lights that have sensors, and would facilitate kids cycling to school in far greater safety than taking their chances on Carlow Road. Also a quicker [and more pleasant] walk to the station for commuters? I think the ‘missing houses’ are just that – I can’t see sufficient space unless they demolish the garage and take from lawn off the house on the left [and a T junction] on to Mucky lane??? Well done the organisers (Oliver?) 🙂
I believe it is really important to retain the green spaces in our estate for health, leisure, etc. Also it is my opinion the cul de sacs in Kingsgrove and Graysland are important aspects and should not be interfered with. I would strongly object to creating access to a new estate through Kingsgrove and Graysland, as it would lead to more traffic,something we have seen a big increase in since granting access to Glebelands.
I am 19 years old and have lived here my whole life. I used the green area growing up and still continue to do so today. If this was taken away, I would no longer be able to play tag rugby or football with my friends and peers. The Rugby Club is not of benefit to me as it is too far from my home and safety can be an issue.In this day and age when obesity is such an issue among my age group,it is extremely important to retain the green spaces in Kingsgrove and Graysland. With regard to the older people in my estate, it would sadden me if this vital amenity was taken away from them, as for many it’s their only source of exercise and communication with others.
Our green areas are very important amenities for all age groups in the estate- for our younger residents to have space to get outside and interact with their friends in a healthy environment, rather than communicating through social media all the time. For our older residents the green spaces provide a safe environment to exercise and communicate with other residents which is always so important but especially in these difficult times-keeping social distancing in mind. Also I totally object to any proposal to provide road access to the new estate in Chanterlands via ‘missing houses’ 97 and 98 as I strongly feel this poses great safety and security risks, not to mention extra noise levels in our estate.
I oppose to plans to get rid of Green area in Kingsgrove as it has been maintained by the residents of Kingsgrove out of their own money and time. Also opening up cul de sacs is a very bad ideas for home safety. Also the volume of traffic out of Kingsgrove will increase further as it has already had Glebe lands open this year.
I want both kingsgrove and chanterlands to be left in there current form
The new proposed entrance into kingsgrove through chanterlands cuts across a small green area that up to now has been landscaped and maintained by the residents. The costs involved have been solely met byesidents with no assistance counci
I object to cul de sac housing estates being .opened up to the make the whole place vulnerable to being robbed. Also current green areas be left alone as they have been landscaped and maintained by the residents using their own money with no assistance from the council
Athy is a very desirable place to live, provided green space remains accessible to new as well as older residents. High density housing would place great strains on these amenities. However, planned development that provides housing aimed at creating a community that values the environmental and cultural aspects of Athy, could enrich the prosperity and quality of life of all residents, old and new. Covid has changed the way we work and live. More and more people want to work from home while having access to good public transport. They will want a place to work from, either in their homes or in a hub. They want good schools for their children. Athy has an excellent school campus. There is scope for a hub with good internet access in one or two of the shops in the town that are currently closed for business. Improvements to the river walkway and to management of this wonderful natural resource would make the Athy an even more desirable place to live. The green area on the other side of the river is constantly flooded. This area could be managed as a nature reserve, with careful planting of willow and other wetland trees. Wildlife would simply move in and tree roots would take up the excess water. The benefits of this kind of development are far in access of creating an amenity that would encourage nature tourism. It would help us as a country to meet our environmental and climate change obligations. It would also create opportunities for craft work such as basket weaving and wood carving. Athy is also a farming community that will falter or fail if we do not look after our pollinators. Bees and other flying pollinators need a green corridor. The river offers an ideal location for this kind of development which could well be managed by the schools and interested residents. With the knock-on value of encouraging community buy-in to the effort. The most important development in this town in my opinion is to bring it back to life. Fill the empty shops with crafts people and artists. Bring the Farmer’s Market back. Make organic food production accessible in the town. Maximize initiatives like Tri Athy and kayaking that already exist. Put on an extra train or two. Create a town that is populated by a community that wants to live there; wants to be part of. Not one that exists in a dense concrete development that kills imagination and quality of life. So leave the green spaces. Build houses that make people want to live in them. Build communities that can integrate and work together.
The residents of Graysland have maintained the green area adjoining the Carlow road and on the left hand side entering the estates, since the estate was built, as they continue to do.
From the outset the Green area adjoining the Carlow Road has been maintained by the residents of Graysland. The fence abutting the Carlow road was also erected and maintained by the residents. The trees and shrubbery on the Green area were provided and planted by the residents. The residents also maintain the green area abutting the Anderson property. The grass in both areas is cut and disposed of each year by the residents. To date no Council has participated in this effort. The direction sign at the entrance to the estates may also have been provided by the residents.
I strongly believe it is vital that the current green spaces in the Kingsgrove and Graysland estates be retained for the good of the people who live here. Home owners, including myself, bought our houses here on the understanding the green areas were and would remain an integral part of the area. Covid 19 has highlighted how important it is for people to be close to green areas and nature. I have noticed a lot of derelict houses in Athy and really believe a much more agreeable approach to increase housing supply in the town is to renovate these and convert them into suitable housing. Please leave us our treasured green spaces! I also think it would be most unfair to grant entrance to another new estate from the Kingsgrove and Graysland estates as residents of Glebelands already access their homes through the area.
The volume of traffic coming into the estate would severely dangerous. Since the opening of the glebeland estate, the volume of traffic has increased and it makes absolutely no sense to add to the volume that’s already present. The security of residents homes and value is under serious jeopardy. The residents own security and safety is not being considered with this new plan. As a resident of the estate I’m extremely angry about this plan.
The increase in the volume of traffic coming into Kingsgrove would be extremely dangerous and unsustainable. The security of the residents homes would be under serious jeopardy. Convacasting the green areas would mean that the children of the estate have no where to play. The value of residents homes would seriously deteriate. The current amenity within the estate should be preserved and under no circumstances should be touched. As a resident, I am extremely angry by this proposal.
The increase in the volume of traffic coming into Kingsgrove would be extremely dangerous and unsustainable. The security of the residents homes would be under serious jeopardy. Convacasting the green areas would mean that the children of the estate have no where to play. The value of residents homes would seriously deteriate. The current amenity within the estate should be preserved and under no circumstances should be touched. As a resident, I am extremely angry by this proposal.
We moved here as it was private and reserved estate with few houses and no through traffic. It also feels safe here as only neighbors and their friends or relations have need to enter here. There are no louts hanging out on street corners and no vandalism, people are proud of where they live and like to keep it nice and litter free.
Under no circumstances will residents in 88 Kingsgrove agree/support the proposals for the Athy Area Plan
Under no circumstance should green areas be lost. Cities are doing their best to recover green areas, improving and expanding pedestrianised and cycling areas – how could it be the right decision to remove green areas within towns and villages? How could building upon green areas and connecting estates be healthy or safe for residents? Who wants to live in an urban jungle? When it is clear from the upsurge of those moving from urban areas to ‘country green areas’.
As is the estate of Graysland and Kingsgrove is lacking in biodiversity – in the five years since I bought my home here I have witnessed the removal of trees but never the replanting or addition of trees. The green areas and footpaths which should have been maintained have never been tended to by Kildare County Council, even though they are responsible. Instead residents have had to organise and pay for the upkeep ourselves. The green areas should be kept for our children, for our well being, for the environment, for our planet – they should not be built upon – instead the majority should be nurtured with the addition of trees, plants and wildflowers. This would be a positive for all our health, and wellbeing, for our town, for our children. With the right planning of our green areas maintenance could be minimum and manageable. When cities are trying to go green, why should towns and villages be going the opposite. The future is in our hands to make the right changes and big differences that could last a lifetime.
Lobby your local councillor. A lot of new faces on the council who will be eager to please.
I am very upset that the council appears to be trying to get this plan approved without consulting with the residents.
The residents have been looking after the green spaces since Kingsgrove/Graysland have been built, What gives the council the right to take these green spaces away from us after putting so much money, effort & maintenance for our kids to socialise/play safely. These green spaces should be kept as it is. If this land was originally under the council, why didn’t they look after it in the first place?
We already have enough houses with the new big build of Glebelands behind our house